Changing Face Templates via SimPE?

Zirconia Wolf · 10-20-2008, 01:58 AM

Okay, I know how to use SimPE to change the skintones of Sims in my Hoods (thanks Hokiman!) but I am now wondering if it is possible to change a Sims face without all the hassle of having to first create a Sim with the "good" face in Body Shop/CAS & then use the SimPE Sim Surgery plug-in to paste the "good" face onto the one I am trying to change.

I really don't want to have to go and create a bazillion "useless" Sims just so I can de-uckify some of the scarier pre-made Townies. (I let the pre-made Maxian Hoods keep all their pre-made peeps, but I want to lessen the ick factor on some of them!)

I guess I am hoping for something along the lines of figuring out the "code name" for a given Face Template & just slapping it in the right place, like the slick way you can change skintones (thanks again Hokiman!) as I have cultivated a nice set of default CAS Face Template replacements & would like to apply some of them to a few of the grosser pre-mades out there!

Any thoughts/advise/suggestions?

Thanks,

-ZW

Miros1 · 10-20-2008, 02:12 AM

Hm, good question!

I have a link for a tutorial on how to make a template from a Sim, maybe the process could be reversed... Lemme post the link I've currently got in my clipboard and I'll look...

Zirconia Wolf · 10-20-2008, 03:56 PM

That would be cool!

I did stumble on this tutorial at MTS2:
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=56241

It's about how to make the face you just gave a Sim via cosmetic surgery in-game into their genetic face via SimPE. This would at least cut out the whole "make-a-Sim" thing.

The trick now is getting the appropriate Townies/Downtownies to undergo surgery in the game. I read somewhere that this can be done with InSim, but I haven't yet figured out just how...

-ZW

***EDITED TO ADD***

Looks like TJ's Sim Blender has a "Fug Factory" option, which is basically cosmetic surgery for anyone on the lot. Between that & Inge Jone's Teleporter, I think I'm set!

(In case you haven't guessed yet, I am gearing up for another Hood Re-Set. Not a reinstall, just a clean re-set as I am now getting pretty savvy on the subject of "character zipping" & want to get things juuuust right...)

Miros1 · 10-20-2008, 08:48 PM

I think all the ugly Maxis people have had more than one chance to "live once."

Greg · 10-21-2008, 11:42 AM

I'm sure I have seen replacements for the default Maxis-made sims but I don't know if those overwrite the faces that show up as options in the CAS screen or Body Shop. It surely would be nice to fix that because there are only two or three default faces that I'm willing to use.

Most of the individual parts of the face in the CAS screen need to be fixed, too.

Zirconia Wolf · 10-21-2008, 05:16 PM

Yeah, the Sim replacements are different than Face Template overrides.

I have (finally) pieced together a complete set of overrides for all 27 Face Templates that suit my fancy & even found a set of Sim Overrides to make the Asian locals of Takemezu Village (Bon Voyage's Far East destination) actually look sort of Asian.

If you are looking for nice Face Template overrides, here's a few links:

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=283674
(a full set)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=302069
(another full set)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=281239
(a nice 08 Asian face)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=277320
(a pretty 01 Heart face)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=275671
(a gorgeous 18 CAUS face, which is arguably the worst one Maxis made)

There are tons more, but these are some of the nicest.

-ZW

(I know; the pre-made Townies have had more than their fair share of "days in the sun", but I'm afraid of annihilating them completely from the pre-made Hoods since some of the pre-made playable Sims have relationship scores with the various Townies. I figured plastic surgery would at least lessen the ick factor impact...)

Greg · 10-21-2008, 05:48 PM

Among these and some others I looked at, I think I like Selzi's face templates the best. They're the second one on your list.

It's worth a try. It says here that the templates won't change the faces of existing sims and any sims you create with them will keep their faces if you uninstall the templates.

Miros1 · 10-21-2008, 09:39 PM

I think there's a way to add faces to the "whole faces" step (#2 in CAS) too. I'm still looking for that, since I think it would be cool (and in keeping with my "face collector" title on InSim and GSC) to just have complete, nice faces to click.

BTW, dboyd/justdave and joetteare (sorry i can't spell) make very pretty Asian ladies too!!!!

Crystal · 10-21-2008, 11:56 PM

I got to try this. I would like to get some nice pretty faces to start with when I make sims and have townies that look like real people.

Greg · 10-22-2008, 03:26 AM

Rose, do you mean to actually increase the number of faces that show up, without having to go to the sim bin?

Miros1 · 10-22-2008, 07:57 AM

Crystal: Yes, get replacement templates. It's so nice to have human looking Townies, Dormies, etc. Here's my tute on how to hide all the crappy Maxis people: http://www.sunsims.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269

Greg: Yes! If I could just find the darn tutorial, it would be explained right there. But it, and the recipe for chocolate pie with peanut butter mousse, have escaped my ability to find them!

Greg · 10-22-2008, 11:59 PM

Ah, that 'splains it. You're dealing with the Tutorial & Recipe Bandit!

Zirconia Wolf · 10-23-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg

Ah, that 'splains it. You're dealing with the Tutorial & Recipe Bandit!

I think I know know that guy!

Isn't he the one that's also responsible for stealing "The Page That Had That Cool Download That Google Won't Find Ever Again"?

Or, maybe that's his evil little brother...

-ZW

Miros1 · 10-23-2008, 04:13 PM

Actually, they're twins. They like to hide files on my puter too!

Greg · 10-23-2008, 11:08 PM

Well, since Google has sold out to the dark side, try a Yahoo search instead!

I've been using Yahoo almost exclusively for the past several weeks and have had far better luck in finding what I'm after.

Zirconia Wolf · 10-24-2008, 02:16 PM

I came to Google after fighting with a bunch of the other "search engines" (this was back in the days of Lycos, Ask Jeeves, etc, etc) when I discovered that 90% of them seemed to have little to no interest in searching for what I typed in, preferring instead to give me a list of randomly generated sites that rarely had anything to do with what I was seeking.

Google always came through like a champ & I've been a die-hard user ever since...but lately I've been having some difficulties getting Google to play nice, so I may revisit Yahoo & see if they've cleaned up their engine since "back in the day". (They must have, as you say you are having spiffy luck with them!)

-ZW

Miros1 · 10-24-2008, 06:08 PM

Another site is cuil.com, which was founded by a couple Google ex-employees. The founders actually gave up most of their severance package to get out of the non-compete clause.

Reader · 10-25-2008, 02:24 AM

I switched to Yahoo as well, because I was not happy with what Google is doing. I just gave http://www.cuil.com/ a try and it looks pretty good!

Don't tell Crystal, but I'm sending myself a reminder about CUIL from Crystal's email. (She and Coco went out in the rain and got soaked. Now they're upstairs changing clothes.) There's still some putridy on CUIL but it is not nearly as putrid as Google.

Zirconia Wolf · 10-25-2008, 04:41 AM

Just popped over to Cuil & have to say "wow!"

So far it's looking like a nice Google alternative!

-ZW

Reader · 10-25-2008, 05:17 PM

I like the way it tells you more about the site. I haven't tried searching for images yet.

10-20-2008, 01:58 AM	#1
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Changing Face Templates via SimPE? Okay, I know how to use SimPE to change the skintones of Sims in my Hoods (thanks Hokiman!) but I am now wondering if it is possible to change a Sims face without all the hassle of having to first create a Sim with the "good" face in Body Shop/CAS & then use the SimPE Sim Surgery plug-in to paste the "good" face onto the one I am trying to change. I really don't want to have to go and create a bazillion "useless" Sims just so I can de-uckify some of the scarier pre-made Townies. (I let the pre-made Maxian Hoods keep all their pre-made peeps, but I want to lessen the ick factor on some of them!) I guess I am hoping for something along the lines of figuring out the "code name" for a given Face Template & just slapping it in the right place, like the slick way you can change skintones (thanks again Hokiman!) as I have cultivated a nice set of default CAS Face Template replacements & would like to apply some of them to a few of the grosser pre-mades out there! Any thoughts/advise/suggestions? Thanks, -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

10-20-2008, 03:56 PM	#3
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	That would be cool! I did stumble on this tutorial at MTS2: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=56241 It's about how to make the face you just gave a Sim via cosmetic surgery in-game into their genetic face via SimPE. This would at least cut out the whole "make-a-Sim" thing. The trick now is getting the appropriate Townies/Downtownies to undergo surgery in the game. I read somewhere that this can be done with InSim, but I haven't yet figured out just how... -ZW *EDITED TO ADD* Looks like TJ's Sim Blender has a "Fug Factory" option, which is basically cosmetic surgery for anyone on the lot. Between that & Inge Jone's Teleporter, I think I'm set! (In case you haven't guessed yet, I am gearing up for another Hood Re-Set. Not a reinstall, just a clean re-set as I am now getting pretty savvy on the subject of "character zipping" & want to get things juuuust right...) __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution! Last edited by Zirconia Wolf : 10-20-2008 at 05:23 PM.

10-20-2008, 08:48 PM	#4
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I think all the ugly Maxis people have had more than one chance to "live once." __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-21-2008, 11:42 AM	#5
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I'm sure I have seen replacements for the default Maxis-made sims but I don't know if those overwrite the faces that show up as options in the CAS screen or Body Shop. It surely would be nice to fix that because there are only two or three default faces that I'm willing to use. Most of the individual parts of the face in the CAS screen need to be fixed, too. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

10-21-2008, 05:16 PM	#6
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Yeah, the Sim replacements are different than Face Template overrides. I have (finally) pieced together a complete set of overrides for all 27 Face Templates that suit my fancy & even found a set of Sim Overrides to make the Asian locals of Takemezu Village (Bon Voyage's Far East destination) actually look sort of Asian. If you are looking for nice Face Template overrides, here's a few links: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=283674 (a full set) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=302069 (another full set) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=281239 (a nice 08 Asian face) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=277320 (a pretty 01 Heart face) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=275671 (a gorgeous 18 CAUS face, which is arguably the worst one Maxis made) There are tons more, but these are some of the nicest. -ZW (I know; the pre-made Townies have had more than their fair share of "days in the sun", but I'm afraid of annihilating them completely from the pre-made Hoods since some of the pre-made playable Sims have relationship scores with the various Townies. I figured plastic surgery would at least lessen the ick factor impact...) __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

10-20-2008, 02:12 AM	#2
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Hm, good question! I have a link for a tutorial on how to make a template from a Sim, maybe the process could be reversed... Lemme post the link I've currently got in my clipboard and I'll look... __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-21-2008, 05:48 PM	#7
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Among these and some others I looked at, I think I like Selzi's face templates the best. They're the second one on your list. It's worth a try. It says here that the templates won't change the faces of existing sims and any sims you create with them will keep their faces if you uninstall the templates. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

10-21-2008, 09:39 PM	#8
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I think there's a way to add faces to the "whole faces" step (#2 in CAS) too. I'm still looking for that, since I think it would be cool (and in keeping with my "face collector" title on InSim and GSC) to just have complete, nice faces to click. BTW, dboyd/justdave and joetteare (sorry i can't spell) make very pretty Asian ladies too!!!! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-21-2008, 11:56 PM	#9
Crystal Addicted Anjafan Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 160	I got to try this. I would like to get some nice pretty faces to start with when I make sims and have townies that look like real people.

10-22-2008, 03:26 AM	#10
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Rose, do you mean to actually increase the number of faces that show up, without having to go to the sim bin? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

10-22-2008, 07:57 AM	#11
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Crystal: Yes, get replacement templates. It's so nice to have human looking Townies, Dormies, etc. Here's my tute on how to hide all the crappy Maxis people: http://www.sunsims.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269 Greg: Yes! If I could just find the darn tutorial, it would be explained right there. But it, and the recipe for chocolate pie with peanut butter mousse, have escaped my ability to find them! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-22-2008, 11:59 PM	#12
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Ah, that 'splains it. You're dealing with the Tutorial & Recipe Bandit! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

10-23-2008, 04:13 PM	#14
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Actually, they're twins. They like to hide files on my puter too! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-23-2008, 11:08 PM	#15
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Well, since Google has sold out to the dark side, try a Yahoo search instead! I've been using Yahoo almost exclusively for the past several weeks and have had far better luck in finding what I'm after. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

10-24-2008, 02:16 PM	#16
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	I came to Google after fighting with a bunch of the other "search engines" (this was back in the days of Lycos, Ask Jeeves, etc, etc) when I discovered that 90% of them seemed to have little to no interest in searching for what I typed in, preferring instead to give me a list of randomly generated sites that rarely had anything to do with what I was seeking. Google always came through like a champ & I've been a die-hard user ever since...but lately I've been having some difficulties getting Google to play nice, so I may revisit Yahoo & see if they've cleaned up their engine since "back in the day". (They must have, as you say you are having spiffy luck with them!) -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

10-24-2008, 06:08 PM	#17
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Another site is cuil.com, which was founded by a couple Google ex-employees. The founders actually gave up most of their severance package to get out of the non-compete clause. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

10-25-2008, 02:24 AM	#18
Reader Bookworm Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: At the library Posts: 26	I switched to Yahoo as well, because I was not happy with what Google is doing. I just gave http://www.cuil.com/ a try and it looks pretty good! Don't tell Crystal, but I'm sending myself a reminder about CUIL from Crystal's email. (She and Coco went out in the rain and got soaked. Now they're upstairs changing clothes.) There's still some putridy on CUIL but it is not nearly as putrid as Google.

10-25-2008, 04:41 AM	#19
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Just popped over to Cuil & have to say "wow!" So far it's looking like a nice Google alternative! -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

10-25-2008, 05:17 PM	#20
Reader Bookworm Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: At the library Posts: 26	I like the way it tells you more about the site. I haven't tried searching for images yet.