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Greg · 02-25-2008, 02:29 AM

Mike, it's tied to the average wage for males in Australia, so the relative wealth of military pensioners would continue to be the same proportion of the wages of everyone else regardless of how the other indices may affect them.

mikedelaney16 · 02-25-2008, 04:36 AM

Greg, I guess I didn't grasp that relationship. Doh!

Sita · 02-25-2008, 02:36 PM

Well, a 25% of the average wage would be a lot better than what I am getting now which is £O a week...

shorty943 · 02-27-2008, 01:03 AM

Good news, we recently got tied to the CPI.

Of course we still don't get anymore.
Just the public servants get to say nice words about themselves.

The insult is still there, stinging away like hell.

25%?
That is our worth to this country?
25% of another man?
Someone we were injured protecting?

Trust me. It burns deep.

Greg · 02-27-2008, 12:27 PM

The 25% is probably based on the assumption that veterans would have other sources of income that would average out to the average income on a national scale. That would make it a bonus rather than an insult.

I wouldn't expect retirement pay to be 100% of the average income because that would bankrupt the country, but if Australia is like America, yeah, 25% of the average income does not sound like an income you could live on. You would need additional income either from your own labor if you can work, or assistance to disabled or elderly people if you can't.

Now that I mention it, though, I do not know what kind of assistance is available is disabled and elderly people in America. I've seen evidence of lots of money available to disabled folks because I work with them; don't know the extent of it but I do know that they do not want for help with physical disabilities. For the elderly, I don't know, other than that our social security program falls far short of a living income.

shorty943 · 02-27-2008, 11:56 PM

On the button there Greg.
It's pretty much the same all over. Pensioners and the disabled struggle the world over. Australia, America, The UK, Russia, everywhere I've been, it's the same.
In my experience with working for the more disabled than I, most of the available funds seem to end up caring for the admin, rather than those who need the care, sadly.

02-25-2008, 02:29 AM	#61
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Mike, it's tied to the average wage for males in Australia, so the relative wealth of military pensioners would continue to be the same proportion of the wages of everyone else regardless of how the other indices may affect them. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

02-27-2008, 12:27 PM	#65
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	The 25% is probably based on the assumption that veterans would have other sources of income that would average out to the average income on a national scale. That would make it a bonus rather than an insult. I wouldn't expect retirement pay to be 100% of the average income because that would bankrupt the country, but if Australia is like America, yeah, 25% of the average income does not sound like an income you could live on. You would need additional income either from your own labor if you can work, or assistance to disabled or elderly people if you can't. Now that I mention it, though, I do not know what kind of assistance is available is disabled and elderly people in America. I've seen evidence of lots of money available to disabled folks because I work with them; don't know the extent of it but I do know that they do not want for help with physical disabilities. For the elderly, I don't know, other than that our social security program falls far short of a living income. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

02-25-2008, 04:36 AM	#62
mikedelaney16 Solar Max Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 201	Greg, I guess I didn't grasp that relationship. Doh!

02-25-2008, 02:36 PM	#63
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	Well, a 25% of the average wage would be a lot better than what I am getting now which is £O a week...

02-27-2008, 01:03 AM	#64
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	Good news, we recently got tied to the CPI. Of course we still don't get anymore. Just the public servants get to say nice words about themselves. The insult is still there, stinging away like hell. 25%? That is our worth to this country? 25% of another man? Someone we were injured protecting? Trust me. It burns deep.

02-27-2008, 11:56 PM	#66
shorty943 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 805	On the button there Greg. It's pretty much the same all over. Pensioners and the disabled struggle the world over. Australia, America, The UK, Russia, everywhere I've been, it's the same. In my experience with working for the more disabled than I, most of the available funds seem to end up caring for the admin, rather than those who need the care, sadly.