No Ugly Sim templates!

Miros1 · 05-29-2008, 03:44 AM

Someone figured out how to get rid of the premade Maxis templates.

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=287013

Greg · 05-29-2008, 11:41 AM

That's really neat! It's not clear whether one would want to install both versions of the hack. Do you know?

Miros1 · 05-29-2008, 03:39 PM

I haven't installed them yet (amazingly, the download went very smoothly), but I think you need both if you have Uni. The first one blocks the basegame templates and the second one blocks the YA templates.

No more ugly templates!

Greg · 05-29-2008, 05:16 PM

Excellent! Heck, I don't think I have ever started with one of those premade Maxian sims, though often the game has randomly rolled up a pretty character that I introduced into my game for just that reason.

Miros1 · 05-29-2008, 08:31 PM

Really sad that random is better than Maxis created...

Greg · 05-29-2008, 10:53 PM

When you put it that way... yeah.

I suspect that the stock characters came from asking a bunch of interns or even lower life forms to create a set of characters that varied widely in their appearance.

Hokieman · 05-29-2008, 11:45 PM

Or given the sense of humor some people had, I'd bet some of them were trying to make the ugliest sim they could. Or they could have been in a hurry. It's a lot easier to make an ugly sim than a pretty one.

I do get a lot of pretty decent looking sims though in bodyshop although I rarely use them.

Miros1 · 05-29-2008, 11:46 PM

When I get a nice one, I give it Maxis hair and clothes and put it up for download!

Hokieman · 05-30-2008, 12:16 AM

I hadn't thought to do that. I'll try to remember to do that.

Greg · 05-30-2008, 12:37 PM

I can confirm that this mod works! I installed both versions; no Maxian sims in the CAS screen.

Sita · 05-30-2008, 11:07 PM

But this wouldn't get rid of the grotty SS uni sims would it? Aren't those from templates too?

Greg · 05-30-2008, 11:48 PM

Yes, they are; and no, it won't.

The text that accompanies this mod hints that somewhere on MTS2 there's a mod that hides the Maxis clothing, too, but it sounds like it would just prevent it from showing up in your CAS screen. I think that means that the game-generated characters will still show up wearing it.

rdanner3 · 05-31-2008, 02:11 AM

OTOH, I've rarely gotten usable Sims by using "Randomize" in either CAS or BS. Obviously, folks' mileage varies widely here. (in fact, I clicked "Randomize" once every 5 seconds for over two hours once. Out of the group generated, I saw a total of 2 I might have kept. The rest were between "almost decent" and "uglier than sin", including one female with squinty eyes and a lantern jaw. Hideous. Of course, this was before I installed the replacement face templates.

Miros1 · 05-31-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg

Yes, they are; and no, it won't.

If you've done the Uni section of my No Ugly Townies tutorial, no, they aren't, and yes, it will.

With the Uni 'hoods and their complete populations in your game, the SS members are predetermined.

Without the Stupid Stinky Maxis-made Dormies, the game will "recruit" some of your existing Dormies to be SS members. If one of your Sims is selected as a new member and there are not sufficient Dormies to become members to perform the initiation, more Dormies will be randomly generated and they will automatically become SS members.

BTW, TwoJeffs has a hack called Stinky Dormie Fix, which both destinks the dormies and reduces the homeword litter. Normally, the Dormies think that starting another homework assignment will reduce the stink clouds around them. TJ simply disabused them of that notion. He did allow them to think that completing an existing assignment will improve their hygiene, so they'll finish the assignments that are lying around. This is the most clever homework litter reducer I've seen yet!

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Originally Posted by Greg

The text that accompanies this mod hints that somewhere on MTS2 there's a mod that hides the Maxis clothing, too, but it sounds like it would just prevent it from showing up in your CAS screen. I think that means that the game-generated characters will still show up wearing it.

I've never found or tried a mod that completely hides the Maxis clothing, but I do know that the Christmas "hider" (by either Jordi or jFade) prevents it from showing up in the CAS screen or in the buying racks at the stores, and from being randomly chosen by game generated characters. I use it simply because I hate people showing up for weddings dressed as Mr. and Mrs. Claus.

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Originally Posted by rdanner3

OTOH, I've rarely gotten usable Sims by using "Randomize" in either CAS or BS. Obviously, folks' mileage varies widely here. (in fact, I clicked "Randomize" once every 5 seconds for over two hours once. Out of the group generated, I saw a total of 2 I might have kept. The rest were between "almost decent" and "uglier than sin", including one female with squinty eyes and a lantern jaw. Hideous. Of course, this was before I installed the replacement face templates.

This is a Maxis product. You take the ones that are "almost decent" and fix them a little. Usually make-up and a decent hair cut will hide the worst of their features. Most real people do have one bad to horrid feature, but the rest of their face balances it out. If nothing else works, tidy up the face with a little plastic surgery (with the CAS controls).

I do have a Legacy 'hood where the twin boys I chose as co-heirs for the third generation grew up to have quite protruding chins, which you don't even notice until you're clicking on objects and swivelling their detached heads around to look at the choices. So far none of their children seem to have inherited the giant chins, but the oldest ones are only teens!

Zirconia Wolf · 05-31-2008, 12:26 PM

Soo...

Are these templates different than the various default face templates I have?

(Can you tell I have rarely used CAS? )

-ZW

Miros1 · 05-31-2008, 04:03 PM

Yes, these are the full body templates on Step 2 of the Sim creation process (under either BS or CAS).

Greg · 05-31-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Miros1

If you've done the Uni section of my No Ugly Townies tutorial, no, they aren't, and yes, it will.

To be precise: The mod that this thread is about doesn't do anything to prevent townies from showing up looking like Skid Road bums. Replacing all the townie templates ought to do it, though.

Miros1 · 05-31-2008, 09:58 PM

How dare you insult the bums like that!

The bums are very careful to bypass that clothing when they find it at the thrift and charity stores.

Greg · 05-31-2008, 11:12 PM

That might explain why it's in the game. EA picked it up really cheap!

Sita · 06-01-2008, 01:15 AM

lol thanks - will do this when I reinstall, as soon as I can get my head round everything I need to backup before wiping the disk bleugh.... would be nice to play SS without the frog-faces.

05-29-2008, 03:44 AM	#1
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	No Ugly Sim templates! Someone figured out how to get rid of the premade Maxis templates. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=287013 __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

05-29-2008, 11:41 AM	#2
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	That's really neat! It's not clear whether one would want to install both versions of the hack. Do you know? __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

05-29-2008, 03:39 PM	#3
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	I haven't installed them yet (amazingly, the download went very smoothly), but I think you need both if you have Uni. The first one blocks the basegame templates and the second one blocks the YA templates. No more ugly templates! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

05-29-2008, 05:16 PM	#4
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Excellent! Heck, I don't think I have ever started with one of those premade Maxian sims, though often the game has randomly rolled up a pretty character that I introduced into my game for just that reason. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

05-29-2008, 08:31 PM	#5
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Really sad that random is better than Maxis created... __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game). Last edited by Miros1 : 05-29-2008 at 08:38 PM.

05-29-2008, 10:53 PM	#6
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	When you put it that way... yeah. I suspect that the stock characters came from asking a bunch of interns or even lower life forms to create a set of characters that varied widely in their appearance. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

05-29-2008, 11:45 PM	#7
Hokieman Solar Max Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 520	Or given the sense of humor some people had, I'd bet some of them were trying to make the ugliest sim they could. Or they could have been in a hurry. It's a lot easier to make an ugly sim than a pretty one. I do get a lot of pretty decent looking sims though in bodyshop although I rarely use them.

05-29-2008, 11:46 PM	#8
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	When I get a nice one, I give it Maxis hair and clothes and put it up for download! __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

05-30-2008, 12:16 AM	#9
Hokieman Solar Max Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 520	I hadn't thought to do that. I'll try to remember to do that.

05-30-2008, 12:37 PM	#10
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	I can confirm that this mod works! I installed both versions; no Maxian sims in the CAS screen. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

05-30-2008, 11:07 PM	#11
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	But this wouldn't get rid of the grotty SS uni sims would it? Aren't those from templates too?

05-30-2008, 11:48 PM	#12
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	Yes, they are; and no, it won't. The text that accompanies this mod hints that somewhere on MTS2 there's a mod that hides the Maxis clothing, too, but it sounds like it would just prevent it from showing up in your CAS screen. I think that means that the game-generated characters will still show up wearing it. __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

05-31-2008, 02:11 AM	#13
rdanner3 Herald of the Dawn Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Alabama, US Posts: 53	OTOH, I've rarely gotten usable Sims by using "Randomize" in either CAS or BS. Obviously, folks' mileage varies widely here. (in fact, I clicked "Randomize" once every 5 seconds for over two hours once. Out of the group generated, I saw a total of 2 I might have kept. The rest were between "almost decent" and "uglier than sin", including one female with squinty eyes and a lantern jaw. Hideous. Of course, this was before I installed the replacement face templates.

05-31-2008, 12:26 PM	#15
Zirconia Wolf Reticulated MoonBat Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My trusty computer in Issaquah WA, USA. Posts: 848	Soo... Are these templates different than the various default face templates I have? (Can you tell I have rarely used CAS? ) -ZW __________________ Long Live All Wild Canines! Leader Of The Moon-Bat Revolution!

05-31-2008, 04:03 PM	#16
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	Yes, these are the full body templates on Step 2 of the Sim creation process (under either BS or CAS). __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

05-31-2008, 09:58 PM	#18
Miros1 Goddess for Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY State Posts: 3,303	How dare you insult the bums like that! The bums are very careful to bypass that clothing when they find it at the thrift and charity stores. __________________ A game that horrible Odessa-person introduced me to: http://www.puzzlepirates.com/?affili...163251&lang=en I'm spreading the addiction by corrupting all my friends (and attempting to make in-game money when they try the game).

05-31-2008, 11:12 PM	#19
Greg Da Guy Wut Owns Dis Joint Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,566	That might explain why it's in the game. EA picked it up really cheap! __________________ Who are all these people and what do they know?

06-01-2008, 01:15 AM	#20
Sita Solar Max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 371	lol thanks - will do this when I reinstall, as soon as I can get my head round everything I need to backup before wiping the disk bleugh.... would be nice to play SS without the frog-faces.