ya know, sometimes it's a really good thing there are no people looking at each other yet, i blush really bad when i'm embarrassed, or whatever, but i can't believe how simple this stuff is once you get to digging into it...why does it come across so intimidating?...Firefox is quite a bit slower than IE, and i'm having a problem getting it to download for me right now, but i found a post on insim by Miros where they were having the same trouble so i'll try some of those suggestions sometime... Thanks for all your help people, won't be here for a while, i'll miss seein' what's up...Take care of yourselves...